Mr. Ma, the non- president of a non-country he won't admit exists, is working with organized crime interests to sell out Taiwan to his partners in China. Why do Taiwanese people tolerate him? He needs to be removed by all means possible and a new constitution needs to replace the dead, meaningless document that serves as the 'guidance' for the people of Taiwan. Is stability worth selling your environment, freedom, future and home for? Will gangsters really give you stability? Would you trust your child growing up with the Chinese government shaping their minds? Is Ma committing treason by dealing with China? Should the armed forces protect his administration? I can agree with the idea that you voted for him. Can you agree to sign a document that effects you for all eternity without looking at it or getting any straight answers? Can you agree to support a group with strong associations with mafia? Do you like people making one law for THEM and a different law for YOU? I am not trolling, I am just trying to get people to think about the implications of what is happening to their country. It seems nobody realizes this is happening in front of them. Opening communication is a good thing. You have telephones and the internet and direct phone lines (ie Russia and USA zero hour phone line.) Opening up your bank vault and handing over all your trade secrets seems like another thing. I just think it would be a reasonable thing to SEE what is up for discussion amongst the leaders and at least have the option to walk away from the table. Now, admittedly after some thought, I gotta say, he really doesnt have a lot of bargaining room. The international community has betrayed Taiwan and turned their backs on it's government. There are no allies of any real use who would allow Taiwan to change its constitution, or who would recognize a new non-nuclear group against the wishes of a powerful nuclear weapon holder/ economic giant. Money talks, and realities must decide these things. However it still sucks. He will be remembered in history as the guy who lost Taiwan. But perhaps he has saved countless lives... ? ? I take back the traitor. -I wasnt able to finish above. I take back the libel 'traitor' But it still REALLY sucks. A LOT. I don't know if I could stay here if it gets signed without some open discussion allowed by the people at SOME level and for some concerns to be addressed. Otherwise it just feels like the general rape of Taiwan just happened and the world recorded it for porn purposes. Edit: Good answers, other than being called a troll, but I prefer the term fisherman in this case, I am trolling for answer-fish. :) My wording was a bit provacative, I guess. I still don't think what he is up to now can be the right path, it is too secretive and it seems he is avoiding giving answers or explaining details to the public.
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You're such a troll. Taiwan is a democratic country and the Taiwanese people went out in droves and performed their democratic right and voted for the person they wanted as president. Mr. Ma won the election fair and square. The losers are never happy regardless of the country - look at all the people who claim Obama rigged the election or are saying stupid things like he's not eligible because he's not American etc. Also, I don't think there's anything wrong with opening up the lines of communication with China, which Taiwan has had and continues to have a strained relationship with. Just because you talk with China doesn't make you less Taiwanese. Should we all just refuse to talk/associate with China and its people. I'm not that bigoted or stupid to believe that there's anything wrong with trying to have better relations yet also maintaining that we ARE a country and that we ARE a democracy and that we ARE NOT a part of the PRC.
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Like or not, President Ma and his cronies are "untouchable". We can complain all we want, to no avail. 80% of the people could be against him, and it still wouldn't matter. The agreement will be signed into law. Two years more years is plenty of time to rake in the immediate profits on the sale of Taiwan, and to guarantee a perennial income on the deals. He only needed a couple of years to set it up, so he doesn't need to care at all about being re-elected. The damage to Taiwan will already be done. Lovely thought, ain't it? Maybe next time around the people of Taiwan will go back to electing a Taiwanese leader instead of a Chinese one. I'm wondering... If that should happen, would Ma then get a lifetime jail sentence for engaging in the normal but illegal activities that are a career politician's bread-n-butter? Alas, I suppose I'd better watch my mouth, because I do work for him (indirectly) and love Taiwan enough to never want to leave it. EDIT: I agree with Ajeet!
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I think Ma is really naive and he believes the Commies will keep their promises to him!! So far there were quite a few deals signed with the PRC with Lien etc but nothing has come out of it. He still does not see it!! He really is not a capable leader. Tsai Ing Wen should forget about the Presidency and concentrate on building up Grassroot support. As one can see, It is the Legislature which controls Stuff here in Taiwan Not the Presidency,With the LY always under KMT control, things will not get any better. The PRC has signed so many many agreements with the US during Clinton, Bush and now Obama's term , but they just dont follow up , giving many reasons why they cannot keep their part of the agreements. However, they make damn sure that the US honors everything they said they will do. The US is so stupid to think that the PRC has influence in the RoK and Iran and if you look at all the Incidents over the last 12 years, those 2 countries did what they pleased no matter what the PRC leaders did during bilateral meeting with them. The PRC commies are the King of BS and poor Mr. Ma, He is going to be buried under a heap of their crap!!
